Argentine President Talks Politics, Defends Tenure at IOP
By SAGAR DESAI, CRIMSON STAFF WRITER
Published: Friday, September 28, 2012
President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, the first woman to be elected president of Argentina, faced tough questions from students at the Institute of Politics on Thursday.
Delivering her speech in Spanish, Kirchner argued that her administration has largely been a successful one. She noted accomplishments such as the establishment of the Ministry of Science, Technology, and Productive Innovation and the recovery of Argentina after both the 2008 economic crisis and the recent European sovereign-debt crisis.
“The minimum wage of our workers is the highest in Latin America,” said Kirchner, whose speech was translated for English speakers. “The same-sex marriage law—we take pride in being the first country in Latin America. To do this fills us with joy,” she added.
Kirchner was first elected president of Argentina in 2007 and then again in 2011. She followed her husband Néstor Carlos Kirchner, who had served as president from 2003 to 2007 but was barred from running again in 2007.
The hopeful tenor of her address, however, stood in stark contrast to the tense atmosphere that ensued. During the question and answer session, students, many of whom were of Argentine, El Salvadorian, Venezuelan, or other Hispanic descent, grilled Kirchner and pressed her to respond to allegations.
Kirchner gave an unwavering defense of her presidential administration, which has often been lambasted by the Argentine press, but students repeatedly asked the Argentine president to be more “self-critical,” as one audience member put it.
“I feel highly privileged to be one of the few Argentines who can actually ask you a question,” said another audience member, referring to the acrimonious relationship between Kirchner and the press. Many claimed that Kirchner has been very unresponsive to the media and that she neglects to respond to concerns from her constituents.
“We’re at Harvard. Come on, please. Those things are not from Harvard,” Kirchner responded, according to the translation.
“If I didn’t talk to people, then why did they re-elect me with over 54 percent of the vote? You’ve got academic standards. You can’t repeat what two or three journalists write. Let’s stop talking about what the media says. Because now it’s an opposition media,” she added.
In light of this criticism, Kirchner refused to let Harvard Kennedy School Dean David T. Ellwood ’75 end the question and answer session and instead encouraged the students lined up at the microphones to continue asking their questions.
Other students came to the podium and asked her about claims that her personal wealth had drastically increased during her tenure in office.
“I don’t know where you got that from but that’s not the case. I have a certain economic position which is the result of working all my life as a successful lawyer. And now I’m a successful president,” answered Kirchner.
—Staff writer Sagar Desai can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.org.
- Jonaz • 4 hours ago
Narrow-minded Cristina Kirchner expected lofty question as in “Visions For Latin America in the New Century”, or whatever. When the questions turned out to be footed in reality, she got confused and angry.
Cristina Kirchner is completely delusional. She has become a 21 century LatAm version of Marie Antoinette, simply unable to understand what is going on. She is surrounded with handlers with very sinister motives and the final outcome resembles more and more a modern tyranny.
I don’t understand why she agrees to answer questions if she is going to answer with lies or try to avoid giving an answer.
Worst of all, she showed disrespect to the students.
Nico, good morning!… Mrs. F. de K. always thinks she fascinates people. She needs desperately to be admired. Yes, she did not say the thruth and students have to be respected; it is a must. The only true thing is that she speaks a lot; yes, that is so, but he speaks to and with herself. She enjoys hearing herself while her “claque” is ready to say Bravo after each word. Each word! Tragic. Mrs. Kirchner never gives press conferences. Never. Only authoritarian monologues.
Argentina lacks the basic democratic tradition of respect for diversity of opinions. Peronism was founded within the Mussolini’s populist fascism ideology which did not respect democratic thinking. Kirchner is aligned with those principles and coherent within a non democratic and Non participatory concept of politics. One of her closest ministers, Mr Moreno, starts dialogues with opponents by placing a gun on the table! threats and fear are the staples of this administration, while those in power take advantage by becoming wealthy supporting a self-serving corruption. In this sense, Cristina Kirchner sets the example as a very capable Peronist leader.
No, not Argentina but this government.
I’m truly amazed that people outside of Argentina can see what Peronism truly did to the country’s culture. It completely changed the Argentinean culture making us all more confrontational, the same thing is being done on this government’s watch. They are reusing the word “Gorila” (Gorilla) to refer to the opposition, there’s no way of having a political disussion with the officialists and that turns us all intolerable with each other. Usually a political discussion is now being avoided between friends with different views in order to preserve friendship, things that I’m told happen during the Peronist era, where Radicals (supporters of the UCR party) where treated the same way that oppositors are treated today. So if you ask me this government is very Peronist, at least in it’s way of handling the opposition and the media. Many people forget how the Peronist movement affected Argentina since they won and as they say “history is written by the winners”.
this is the way she is, that is why we dislike her so much, besides the country is a mess
Yes, she did it.
disrepect is what students shonwed to her when laughting at her. They didn’t even watch her conference at Georgetown and asked the same questions ‘having an unique opportunity’
I think it’s a shame for Harvard standars that her student put questions to a president without researching, they had to read the questions!
Students were not so Silvana. The problems is that Mrs. K is not in the habit to cultivate protocol and respect tradition. Harvard, in my opinion, was for her a place to say; “look where I am…I will show who I am. The academic tradition was sorrily not taken into account.
Puh-leaze. This was the equivalent of billionaire kids from the Hamptons asking Obama why he lied about his birth certificate. Go online to either of the two largest newspapers in Argentina and you’ll see outrageously critical (and subjective) headlines. In the forums you’ll see calls for her death voted up to the very top. She answered what were very stupid and rude questions, that, as she pointed out, only reflect the concerns of a very small minority.
I know your example is exaggerated but it does not matter who asks the question, and it’s very different because Cristina does not answer questions that affect Argentinian’s lives (wealth, safety and rights) regardless the severity.
I know those newspapers because I am Argentinian, and I won’t deny that they are against the government, but not everything is critic, there are facts too, and the facts should not be ignored (even if it was only one fact).
And finally, opposite as she pointed out, it’s not a very small minority, it’s not small at all. Anyhow, there was no excuse to treat those students as she did.
Nearly half of all Argentinian children live in poverty even though Argentina is overflowing with natural resources. Monsanto soy is destroying fertile soil at an enormous rate. Public school teachers are paid a salary of subsistence. There are real issues to be dealt with in Argentina, and exchange houses, “rising crime” and freedom of the press are not among them. These kids didn’t ask why Monsanto gets sweetheart deals that will leave us without fertile soil in the future, or how Kirchner plans to integrate children growing up in the slums. The problem is that the “opposition” is just as bad or worse than Kirchner, and these kids squandered their chance to ask something that actually matters.
John Smith: Exucse me, but I find insulting that you say “rising crime and freedom of press are not the biggest problems this country has. I live in Argentina, I am here right at my house, and every day I go out I am more afraid of getting shot to kill just to get my cellphone robbed.
You say a minority only cares about this issues, basically you’re saying that because mid class is just a small number you shouldn’t listen to them? I feel like I’ve been left for dead here, because people are given money for doing nothing while my dad breaks his ass at work everyday and they just keep taking money from us to give it to the poor.
I am in favor of finding a solution for this, but I believe I don’t deserve to live like this.
Lauti: I’ve lived in Argentina for 7 years, am a father and an immigrant, and it’s ridiculous for you to feel scared about getting murdered, and I live in Once, which according to Lu is one “of the scariest barrios around”. I’m from central california –which had and has serious crime, and drugs– and people there are less scared even though they’re more likely to be shot. The only change I’ve seen in 7 years is perhaps a slight increase in petty theft (e.g. your cell phone), and burning women. You are absolutely out to lunch if you think poor people don’t work. Go volunteer in a villa and take a look around– most likely your father never works as hard as most of the people there.
John Smith: So you didn´t live in Argentina during any other government…
John Smith: Argentina´s problems are structural ones and begin with 1492 ideology and the desire to conquer, then the etnocide to american peoples during XIX century, the dictatorial governments during XX century and now lot of people still reproducing all that avarice…we need a huge change for things going better. I agree oposition is bad, but not because of that we are going to keep with “mejor mal conocido que bueno pos conocer”. We need to try for something different right now, I think this government has nothing more to give us, only sorrows.
Lu: De ninguna manera soy K, al contrario. Pero hasta que los pibes privilegiados en Harvard se animen a exigir derechos humanos por los millones de ninios argentinos creciendo en pobreza extrema, me cago en sus preguntas del cepo cambiario. Ellos son los que van a seguir con el imperialismo maniana, si uno puede confiar en los patrones antropologicos del poder. Saludos.
John Smith: Exigir respuestas acerca del enriquecimiento es una manera de preguntar acerca de porque sigue existiendo los niveles de pobreza estructural. Si el país ha crecido, en estos años tal como dicen, entonces la pregunta correcta es porque tenemos funcionarios que se vuelven millonarios en la función pública y hay niños creciendo en la extrema pobreza.
John Smith: Yo no soy K pero tampoco soy anti-K, creo que ambos extremos dejan mucho que desear…Tampoco creo que Cristina haga mucho por la pobreza, y tampoco creo que los “estudiantes de Harvard” deban ser subestimados, una gran parte de los estudiantes de esas universidades son becados. Mientras sigamos siendo capitalistas como lo somos, la pobreza va a seguir existiendo.
Lu: No hay que racionalizar la pobreza mientras multinacionales saquean los recursos nacionales y hay argentinos desnutridos. muy ingenuina tu postura.
John Smith: Me respondés con otras cosas, al igual que Cristina, que saca otros argumentos de la galera para esquivar lo que se discute. Estoy de acuerdo con que las multinacionales son el camino opuesto al crecimiento del país tal como lo pienso y lo quiero yo, habría que sacar a todas una por una, o ponerles impuestos altísimos y con esa plata mejorar cuestiones de los sectores bajos.
De la desnutrición te puedo contar que lo que hay hoy día se denomina MALNUTRICIÓN, es un concepto más amplio que incluye a los desnutridos y a los obesos, ambos se presentan en niveles muchisimos más altos y se están incrementando desmedidamente en los sectores más bajos de la sociedad, que si tienen netbooks y una asignación de $340 por hijo, entre otras cosas). Desnutridos y obesos pobres hay acá a unas cuadras de casa nomás, en todas las ciudades, mucho más de lo que la gente piensa, justamente mucho plan social pero no le enseñan a la gente a comer ni le dan la posibilidad de acceder a productos sanos….por qué no regalan canastas familiares en vez de la asignación por hijo? Esos niños malnutridos YA NO TIENEN CAPACIDAD de aprender como un niño bien nutrido. Es lamentable pero siguen reforzando las diferencias sociales indefinidamente…yo creo que el ingenuo sos vos, te falta un poco más de crítica y perspectiva macro de las cosas…
Lu: Pero que esquive? Apenas estamos de desacuerdo… soy altamente critico de la presidenta por no tomar medidas serias contra la pobreza. Pero tambien creo que la pobreza es millones de veces mas importante que si ella hace entrevistas o no con grupo clarin. Para mi la inflacion desde 2005 rondea el 500%. Pero la inseguridad realmente no es para tanto. Y si vivo en Once, y tengo amigas que vuelven solas de bares en Almagro a las 4-5 de la madrugada, y lo unico que tienen que temer es que alguien les robe la cartuchera. Y no estan muy preocupadas, mas bien alertas, y algo borrachas. Lo peor al respeto de los planes sociales es que ya sabemos todos que ningun diario en el pais lo va a analizar objetivamente; ni clarin, ni la nacion, ni pagina, ni perfil (y muchisimo menos critica de la nacion si todavia existiera). Tengo amigos docentes en colegios primarios y la mayoria ven la asignacion positivamente, pero olvida leer una nota seria sobre el tema. Creo que (si tenia el derecho (y estuviera)), hubiera votado por Solanas en la epoca que hizo “Argentina Latente”. Veo la dichotomia muy parecido a lo de eeuu. E.j. los republicanos hacen campania hablando de inmigracion ilegal, mano dura, y sacar planes sociales. Los democratas hacen campania promotiendo cosas buenisimas, como salir de la guerra, de poner mayor impuestos a los ricos/corporaciones, de crear un sistema de salud publica, pero es todo un discurso. Que Obama sea un presidente de guerra (que acaba de categorizar a wikileaks como un “enemigo del estado” (la misma que al queada), no significa que la oposicion es mejor, sino que el pueblo esta jodido de toda forma. Para mi es lo mismo en Argentina, la oposicion compromete aumentar los problemas de ser pobre, y cristina da discursos muy lindos, pero que son nada mas que discursos y sigue la pepa para multinacionales. Y hasta vos me decis que soy de la campora y no vivo en once! Que pasa?
Lu: pienso lo mismo. Argentina debería ser como el primer mundo, cortar los multimedios, hacer que la gente tenga que sacar fecha para manifestarse, reprimirla cuando lo hace, inventar un guantanamo, mandar sus tropas a medio oriente para robar petroleo, usurpar terreno ajeno, endeudarse con el F.M.I. déjate de joder antipatria!
Z-Julian Buet Scarcella: Antipatria es sostener que un funcionario de cualquier ideología se enriquezca, como la PresidentE, a costa del hambre del pueblo que dice defender.
John Smith: Nene: La madre del borrego no son los privilegiados de Harvard… Es la corrupción, así como se llevó u$s 700 M descaradamente, ubicá las cosas en la palmera ¿¿¿qué tienen que ver con Harvard???
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1 – in Argentina may manifest date publicly without asking the government
2 – in Argentina the latest demonstrations were based in dollars cause (because they originated from that date)
3 – under President Cristina Fernandez never had repression in demonstrations
4 – In the U.S. No signature that has more than 200 media purchased. Because I should have in Argentina?
5 – Argentina is the first country to ensure the citizens many rights as any other in Latin America.
6 – these guys were not there by chance. One was the chief education “adviser” Buenos Aires, responsible for the expulsion of teachers by performing a parody of Mauricio Macri.
sorry John, you are soo wrong. see all the newspapers in argentina and except 2 which are totally Kirshneristas they say the same. Inflation is over 25%, if not why they allowed 24% increse of salaries in the unions? food increses every day.
Nobody in this country manages these numbers! not even the opposition! so ignorant are Harvard? We know you are so unitiles in that country that can not close Guantanamo. Or justify its annual deficit. But you get embarrassed the way you lie.
Z-Julian Buet Scarcella: Do you go to the marketing every week? Do you pay for services like electricity? Do you travel by train? Pot bangings began in June. But since that time people have seen that their liberties are at stake.
I encourage you to come visit us, and find out for yourself what’s going on in my country. Most of us who are against certain aspects of our current government do not want more violence(we had enough violence and death in the past) nor want to see any democratic leader killed. We just want to be able to carry on with our lives, to know that our children will have a future…and that’s why we are afraid, prices of food rise daily, but salaries are stagnant. This is not socialism, we are far from being a right wing upper class minority that are angry because there is a restriction for us to buy US dollars. We are the mid and upper mid class angry because we see corruption and lies from our government, as simple as that.
Ok Smith, the headlines are critical but the comments in the forums are allowed. In the goverment newspapers, like Pagina 12, neither forums nor comments are allowed. PS: your name looks like a fake name from a cover argentine’s goverment supporter
That’s right, papers can publish whatever they want, regardless of how anti-kirchner it is. To argue that there isn’t freedom of the press in Argentina is totally dishonest.
John Smith: yesterday your president said that there are lot of freedom of press and within a minute that there are 20 journalist prosecuted, that is ridiculous. Hey bro, you are working to Argentine goverment or you are a La Campora militant?
Fernando: Me cago en la campora, y si no fueras tan pelotudo, y fueras capaz de leer mis comentarios demas en este foro, te darias cuenta. Te felicito salame, jamas votaria para kirchner.
John Smith: if you are not kirchnerista you look like one of them. Obviously, if you need to curse me you are nervous so you are kirchnerista.
Not clear what you want to say…
Hernan Figueroa • a day ago
Mrs. Kirchner is an embarassment for Argentina and the milliones of Argentines who sustained years of military dictatorship and had hoped for a decent, well-run, open government. Her answers are not only a bunch of half-truths, they are also a deviation of reality that makes someone like (and thousands of others like me) to wonder which country is she leaving in? She denies inflation, yet most people in Argentina are horrified by the cost of living; she talks for hours using the national interaconnected network of radio and television but not once she speaks about the cost of living, the rising of crime and insecurity, and so on… Sometimes I wonder if she’s autistic…
I´m an argentinian anthropologist and I want to share with you that yesterday Cristina Fernandez lie about almost everything she was asked: insecurity (is one the biggest social problems of the moment, yesterday I was robbed, I was robbed also three months ago), her wealth (nobady doubts about the way it increased exponentially), “cepo cambiario” (we can´t but any foreign currency or travel abroad). It seems she is fighting against middle sector of our society (I´m a professional and I don´t have the oppportunity to buy a house, a car, to travel…). Only the richest and the poorest take advantage.
But the worst thing she did was the way she discourage latin american students, even argentinian ones, calling them “compañerito”, saying that they could not ask her those questions because they had lot of oportunities and the prove of that is them studying at that University…She also discouraged a University that she herself created: Universidad de La Matanza. I am really ashamed for the president we have, we need a change soon and very proud of the latin american students that have the opportunity to ask and bear up at her answers.
It is an unsustainable lie that crime is up in Argentina, and any serious academic would know that. I live in Argentina and I’ve never heard any professor say that can’t “buy a car or travel” because of Cristina Kirchner– you’re being intellectually dishonest at the very least. 100% of the Argentine population knows an Argentinian student at Harvard represents the upper .001% of the Argentine social order, and indeed, their questions were parroted from newspapers that put more spin on everything than Kirchner herself.
Dear John Smith:
I think that those Harvard students did the questions that they actually did want to ask. I know a lot of people who studied abroad and they did not necessarilly pertain to a high social order: there are lot of scholarships, as you may now. Anyway, we can´t dissaprove them just for having a good social position. Argentina´s last years government reminds me of the bad experienced socialisms of twentieth century, where -paraphraseing Marx- superstructure was the most important force of cohesion, the dominant ideology was meant to control all other social aspects. I mean, if we are a bit critical we can see clearly the way they are creating a false dichotomy between sectors supported by “being K” or “being a K enemy” related to being of a left or a right ideology….ARE WE CRAZY? People are not simple after all!
Finally, I don´t know which were your possibilities or your familiy wealth, but me, I´m a professional I graduated with one of the best notes, I have two works doing what I studied for, I live in a regular neighborhood in a small house that is not mine, I have a child, and you know what? Salary isn´t enough for me, I can not log on any loan, I have more opportunities to grow professionally abroad than in my own country, I could not bring up my child in the streets showing her how to ride a bike like my parents used to do with me…so tell me where you live because I want to live in a neighborhood with no crime as yours…
I live in Once, where I raise my son. But I’m from central California, and should you wish to compare crime stats, you’ll see why BA is the safest city I’ve ever lived (and has the fewest drugs). I’ve lived in Argentina for seven years, and I still feel safe on the streets late at night. My son rides his bike in both Plaza Almagro and Miserere, and everyone has always been polite. One or two people have asked me for change, but that is not offensive, and it was worse in California. For centuries wealth has flowed from the South to the North, and that institutionalized reality is the main reason you can’t get a loan, and why you’ll have more buying power performing the same profession in the US. The fact that people complain about “rising crime”, buying dollars or “freedom of the press” is an absolute outrage in the face of so much poverty alongside so many natural resources. If the Argentine middle class cared more about their compatriotas living in poverty than their hipotecas, politicians from all parties would *magically* come up with some solutions.
John Smith: Sorry John, but I do not believe you. Is impossible to feel safe at night nowadays. Once is one of the more dangerous neighborhoods in Buenos Aires. I´m for La Plata, the city where CFK was born and things are really hard here…
Lu if you live in La Plata how do you know that Once is one of the more dangerous suburb in Bs As? I live in Pompeya not very far from there and very often walk through Once and other next door neigborhoods and I can say that things are better than before let’s say 10 or 20 years ago regarding safe, drugs, robberies etc.I usually walk at night late at night without any problem at least up to day. ,,
John Smith: You have to realize that corruption is the reason for all those calamities we have here (people living under the poverty threshold, insecurity, etc.)
And this government is like the pinnacle of corruption.
Even more than Menem.
John Smith: Flaco, pará de mentir y volvé al comité donde cobrás el plan. Son un verso con patas los camporistas. Tiene que frutear que nació en California, se pone “John Smith” de nombre y habla de las “malvadas mutlinacionales”.
¿Te dejan robar como a Boudou a vos? ¿O te arreglaron con unos míseros mil dólares mensuales? Tendrías que luchar por la igualdad chorra, porque te están cagando.
where do you live? crime has increased here in the last 5 years steadilly due to drugs and poverty because goverment is looking the other way, kids used to play in the streets today they dont.
I live in Ituzaingo, a neighbour in Gran Buenos Aires and crime is lower than in 2003, as well as drug use.
silvana de masi: LOL….Yes, right…
I live in Once. Crime has not been increasingly significantly and neither has drug use. Come to my neighborhood and you’ll still see kids riding their bikes (on the weekends when not so many people are on the sidewalks). Reporting of crime and drugs has increased, which increases fear among Argentines. See Michael Moore’s “Bowling for Columbine” for an analgous situation in the US. (Argentinos tienen 3000% mas miedo de contraer h1n1 que morirse en una accidente automovilistica. Esto no significa que es racional, aunque las farmacias se agotan de alcohol en gel. Y seguro los medios publicaron 3000% mas notas sobre h1n1 que inseguridad vial. (Saco el porcentaje del aire, pero creo que podes entender)).
Do you live in ONCE? Close to PLAZA MISERERE? And Crime rates are not UP???!!! And drug ABUSE IS NOT SKYROCKETING??? Give me a break…You cannot walk around ONCE Station because of burglars at any time of the day. Not even the Federal Police can stop them…Are you kidding me about riding a bike in BA? I’m a grown up man, almost 6 ft and they stole my bicycle 6 months ago. Two months ago they stole my car, from a parking lot with alarm…I think you live in Switzerland, not in Argentina!!!
There is only one cause someone could be lying so much, paid by the Kirchners, no other explanation.
You cannot fool people. And the most ample evidence of INTOLERANCE was Cristina Fernandez and her Histrionic SHOW.
Shame on her!!!
Alex BU: Alex, Once, Constitucion, Retiro , Chacarita always were a red zone, actually near railway sation and surroundings where you had to have special care to go around because of its bad reputation due mainly to organized crime , not from now but many years ago.I know these places let’s say for about 50 years so being honest things didin’t change a lot , I’m able to say that nowadays is a little bit better than 20 or 10 yeaqrs ago. I live in Pompeya and I always go out at night ,so I back home at very late at night and until NOW however I never had a safe problems or somebody from the street tried to steal me, that my experince >I’m not a member of any political party ,I’m not neither for nor against this administration .I’m an independent
Johs I work at a local Criminal Court in Mendoza, and the crime tendencies are still going up as the crimes are scaling in its level of violence. I do not blame CFK for this (that would be a nonsense), but still some of the policies for insecurity are failing (and let’s remember the so called Blumberg laws that this goverment voted rising the years of prision for armed robbery amongst other things, and that didn’t work at all). CFK goverment as its antecessors still can’t come up with a solution to these issues.
I lived one year in Mendoza, and in the “sixth section”, groups of men would rob houses by kicking in the doors. Mendoza has far more crime than Capital, although *no one* in Mendoza would ever admit to that. I arrived one week after you voted in Jaque on his promise to “cut crime in half in six months”. (Can you believe that??!!!) As far as I know he didn’t put any money into prevention, schools, after-school programs, incentives, etc., just a fruitless program that put cops on top of roofs in downtown mendoza, that proved to be a failure, because: “we can’t see through all the trees”. And, as I’ve said in other posts in this very forum, I would never vote for Cristina.
John Smith: Actually there’s where I live, and in the Provinces insecurity is a real issue, and as I said as a law student & judiciary worker as I am, I still can’t believe how people voted for Jaque and now Perez, both CFK’s choices for governor, and both very poor choices (they are men who doesn’t stand for their province and federalism).
Gabriel Longhin: I hope things get better in Mendoza. I really felt that the poor had no advocates at all in the province… it was very sad. Do you think maybe Cristina “endorses” the candidate who will probably win rather than people voting for the candidate because Cristina endorsed him? People in Mendoza really hated Buenos Aires. I remember front page articles about how an extra hour of sunlight would cause psychological disorders. Did they ever put a stoplight in at Paso de los Andes and Aristobulo del Valle? That would save someone’s life for sure.
sos de la cámpora, eh? ponete george washington de nombre si querés, seguís sin engañar a nadie
He could be a big step forward, a campora militant who is able to write in english
Fernando: That´s right! I thouht that any campora or K sympathizer would never assume the English knowledge they could have! 😉
Cristina Kirchener is: immoral, no transparency, liar, dictator, aggressive, incompetent, arrogant, uneducated and not graduate as a lawyer. Regards from Buenos Aires!!!
Jonathan Pulliam • a day ago
Essa vaca sem vergonha Cristina Fernández de Kirchner merece ser jogada na cadeia por cometer tantos crimes economicos barbaros contra seu proprio povo Argentino.
Estou completamente de acordo meu … Cristina eh uma perua e vadia desnaturada !!!!!
acaso vos sos el pueblo? dejate de joder, ni siquiera discutis nuestros problemas en tu propio idioma.
Concordo com Jonathan e com Mulher_Maluca. Eles estão no certo!
I agree with Jonathan and Mulher_Maluca. They are right!
Pero como sos kirchnerista y sos limitada en el dominio de los idiomas, te lo sigo en español: estoy de acuerdo con nuestros hermanos brasileños que critican a Cristina. Ellos defienden a los argentinos más que vos.
Victoria • a day ago
I live here in Buenos Aires and she I cannot believe how awful and untruthful this woman is. The inflation rates are THROUGH THE ROOF, even for me, who is living off of saved dollars from back home. I have to exchange my dollars on the black market with the exchange rate of 6.30 pesos for every dollar. No one can buy dollars…do you know what that is like for those that live here? Do you know what it’s like to save in pesos?
And this is just one issue. One teeny tiny issue compared to the many other things happening here. The tension in the air in this huge city is overwhelming.
I love my country, all I want is for it to be at peace once and for all.
Get those disgusting people out of here!
y si vivis en ARGENTINA, y amas tanto tu país….por qué tenés tanta necesidad de comprar dolares???? o acaso pagas la nafta, el colectivo y tu comida con dolares? Por favor!!! si amar tu país se mide en la cantidad de dolares que queres comprar, entonces andate a vivir a estados unidos y sé feliz. No pierdas el tiempo acá.
se coherente, para ahorrar en pesos con la inflacion que hay es una pavada. hasta gente K que fue robada tenian dolares, no seas ridicula Carolina, es la inflacion lo que hace que la gente ahorre en dolares
because I like the green colour? or becouse i don’t like to save money in pesos, or maybe because is MY will to do that. I like my country and neither you nor the president should tell me what to do with MY money or in wich country I should live
porque idiotas como vos, no entienden que si se deja un dolar flotante, los primeros en sentir el impacto del tipo de cambio van a ser los consumidores en su totalidad, y que los productos que necesitamos importar para poder producir no los vamos a poder comprar entonces se produce un receso de la producción, y porque obviamente, los más felices con eso van a ser el sector que exporta productos primarios, y por ende, no vas a poder comprar comida en tu país. Y si no sabés qué hacer con tu dinero, tiralo, o regalalo, o mejor, seguí tomando cursos de idiomas. Pero entre tanto, toma un curso básico de economía, quizá te aclare las ideas. Y luego uno de geografia, asi te orientas un poco más acerca de dónde querés vivir. Podés hacer con tu dinero lo que quieras….excepto comprar dolares. Lo siento…
email@example.com: Caro querida,
Donde estudiaste economia? Con el Marxista de KICILOFF en la FCE UBA?
Clase magistral de economia politica…de la CAMPORA???
Pongan las barbas en remojo, se les viene la noche luego del 8N!!!
Uns cuantos van a tener que trabajar en serio y largar los planes en los MINISTERIOS y reparticiones publicas…se ACABA….
A LABURAR EN SERIO…
Porque el que ahorra en dolares tiene al menos, dos dedos de frente. Que incoherente ahorraría en pesos sabiendo que la moneda se le devalúa un 25% al año?? hoy tenés 100 mañana 75…Este es el “relato” que no tiene sustento ven, comentarios como los de Carolina.
Because saving in dollars is save my money. Save on peso would incoherent knowing that the currency was devalued by 25% per year? Today you have 100 tomorrow 75 … This is the “Relato” that is baseless seen, comments like Carolina.
Para ahorrar!!! O vos ahorras en pesos???
Que preguntas pelotudas que hacen los KKS!!!
“…por qué tenés tanta necesidad de comprar dolares?” Bom querida, pois os esquerdistas ja se tornou seu peso humilde ate algo que nem vale bulhufas mais. Pena que eh.
P • a day ago
A couple of comments:
1- Néstor Kirchner was not barred from running, he chose not to and decided to let his wife run instead.
2- Cristina Kirchner’s wealth increase is not “a claim” but a fact, that even she has acknowledged in her yearly tax documents.
xabiera • 19 hours ago
She didn’t behave as a president of a country, she was extremely arrogant.. I agree with students’ comments, and I feel disappointed for not listening to any self criticism
I traveled all over Argentina 18 months ago, Mendoza, Bariloche, BsAs, and as far north as Iguazu. Everyone I met didn’t trust CFK. The only exceptions were the marxist students in BsAs who tutored Spanish for visiting tourists because they didn’t have any professional skills to get regular jobs.
I think CFK’s comment about “you’re here, so clearly you know how to get dollars” was completely arrogant and inappropriate. Imagine if a US president spoke at Oxford and a Rhodes scholar asked a fiscal policy question? Every voter should be treated equally, not dismissed because he/she is studying at Harvard.
Also, I think CFK is ignorant about Harvard’s financial aid to foreign students. Because the university has the largest financial endowment in the world, foreigners are accepted who don’t necessarily have to pay full freight (or anything close to it). For all CFK knows, this student has a full scholarship to cover room, board, tuition, books and travel.
Jana, thanks so much for your accurate description of our MARXISTOID students finance by this government!!!
May I correct you? They have a skill….TALK and TALK NONSENSE like Cristina Fernandez!!!
They are totally ignorant and resented people!!!
Best of lucks!
As an argetinan law student, I would like to clear the case about the answer regarding the decriminalize calumny / Defamation project CFK claimed to
impulse on the Congress. The reform on our Criminal Code was because of a sentence against my country
by the Interamerican Human Rights Court in the case Kimel vs. Argentina.
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Alejandra • 16 hours ago
My President… pathetic! This country is a mess. Justice does not work at all! Crimes every day! I was robbed at the super market this morning, but this is nothing compare to what people go through every single day.
The gap between poor and rich, gets bigger and bigger. They are destroying our middle class. I came back to Argentina after 18 years in Ithaca, NY first and Boston area later. I love my country. I want to live in a real democratic country.
Kokus • a day ago
Mrs.Cristina Fernandez is a female version of Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez Frias.
How many democratic elections has Chavez won? And it’s Dr. Cristina Fernandez.
Kinda like Dr. Frankenstein, eh Smitty?
The only monster created in a lab that still tries to wreak havoc in Latin America is good ole neoliberal economic theory, which actually has left millions of destitute poor in the continent.
Preguntale a Alassino y a Brandoni donde se empomaban a la PRESI??
En el banio de diputados campeon…esa es tu presidenta!!!
mmm I don´t think she has a PhD…don´t be mundane calling a lawyer “Dr”
no, no tiene doctorado,
Dr. Pepper also has a PHD, let him run the country
I’m sorry, she never graduated form LAWSchool, another lie!!!
Never registered at any BAR!!!
Another lie by the FAT and UGLY LIAR!!!
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maybe too many as hitler won… Juancito, the matter is not to won elections and then do wathever yo want. If you won an election you MUST respect the constitution and you dont try to reform it in order to be elected many times
Constitutions allow themselves to be reformed. That’s why they’re called “living documents” in English. How many executions has the current government overseen? And you’re going to compare Kirchner to Hitler?
John Smith: Constitution could be reformed, ok, Could the presidents, specially those corrupts like your kristina be eternal? NO
Nazism didn’t beguin with death camps, but finishes with them. Kirchnerismo didn’t begin killing people, actually it murdered Ferreyra and Condory,and dissapear Julio Lopez, the social security minister was secretary in the military dictatorship in the 70…. maybe in a few years kirchnerismo has its own death camps
Fernando: Julio Lopez died on a flight to BOLIVIA by K’s agents. That’s why he will never appear, he is dead. They wanted to blame the military of police forces for his disappearance…BAD LUCK guys…ASK GARRE or should I say Comandante Teresa??? Murderer when in MONTONEROS….
She’s a worthless skank that wants to be the next Mussolini. I can’t wait to see the look
on her face when her neck is cracked and hung in the streets of Buenos Aires for
everybody to see.
She is repugnant, and comes off as a sad and delusional old demagogue. Her country is on the brink of economic abyss, she prohibits the free people of Argentina to access their own money, she constantly attacks and belittles the “opposition”, or anybody that has an opinion that’s different from hers, and she lies about anything that may shoe her in a bad light. Typical demagogue, typical dirty socialist, typical Chavista troll.
Ashamed because of many things she actually didn´t explained or answered…
She is an absolute whore looking to be the next Mussollini. I can’t wait to see her neck cracked the same as El Duche. I’ll see you Christina on the streets of Buenos Aires with your feet in the air the same as your mentor. Rot in hell Christina, I’ll be there the same as my grandmother was there for Mussollini.
- Zahida • a day ago
One of her biggest lies, among others, is that she won with the 54% of the vote. There were innumerable irregularities during the voting sessions which led to conclude there was fraud. Many of her “voters” were dead or people considered missing. Another huge lie is that about her personal wealth. She claims she made it being a “successful lawyer” but the biggest increase of it has been during her life as a politician. Since she’s been in office her wealth has increased over 3554%.
This is an example of how successful she was as a “lawyer” during the late 70´s and early 80´s.
She needed an ad in the classifieds.
Successful… yes, sure.
It makes me laugh she said she was a succesful lawyer, that she had one the best buffets here in Argentina, and nobody knew her at that time, only the milicia, for whom she work! Maybe she did the many working for the milicia, but not being a lawyer in Patagonia in the seventies…
por favor! de donde sacaste esa informacion?????????? AUN si fuese cierta, si ella solo hubiese sacado el 15% del total de los votos, IGUAL hubiese ganado…SI el segundo sólo obtuvo el 11%, el tercero saco el 8% y asi sucesivamente, por favor, deja de leer historietas.
I´m from Argentina, and you failed to translate something. when you translated “ We’re at Harvard. Come on, please. Those things are not from Harvard,” , she actually meant: ¨We´re ar Hardvard. Come on, Pleas. Those things are not proper for Hardvard, you may expect that form La Matanza (University)¨. In that way she insulted one of the most prestigious universities here. Actually, trying to insult a Hardvard student, acted like we (argentinians, specially those who live in LA MATANZA, which gives that university its name) are undervalued.
She failed to answer all the questions, which is how usually behaves here. She hasn´t answered one single question from the press since 2011, ans THAT whas historical. His husbuand never had press conferences. Thay always make anouncements, but you can´t ask.
La presidente Kirchner mintio en todo lo que dijo y tambien desprecio y humillo a los estudiantes de Harvard y a la poblacion de la Matanza, en Bs.As., que le dio los votos.
AND THE CHERRY OF THE DESSERT IS SHE WITH MANY PEOPLE OF THE GOVERMENT BELONGED TO MONTONEROS IN THE ’70 S ,THE WERE PART OF THE TERRORIST IN THIS COUNTRY AND NOW THE CAME BACK FOR REVENGE AND TO FILL UP THERE POCKETS!!!OH YES AS SHE SAID WE ARE GIONG FOR EVERYTHING!!
DON’T VISIT US FOR RITE NOW IS A BEATIFUL COUNTRY BUT VEREY UNSECURE,IT,S EXPENSIVE ,A CHEAP HOTEL U$100 EACH NOT THE ROOM LIKE OTHER COUNTRYS,A LEVIS JEAN u$120 DOLARS A COTTLE OF WATTER U$3 A BOTLE OF A BIG COKE u$2 ATHE SUPER MARKET OVER THERE 99 CTS,A OLD USED CAR LIKE A TOYOTA COROLLA 2004 U$11000. GO OUT FOR DINNER 3 PEOPLE u$100 ,AN SMALL APARTMENT ONE BEDROOM IN PALERMOu$ 100.000 BUY IN MIAMI FOR 55.000.
Livinginkirchnerlandia • 2 hours ago
To Mr. John Smith — whether you’re currently in the US o en Argentina, tiene una vision totalmente “passé” de la actualidad de Argentina — additionally, your postings are incoherent. There is no way to academically analyze what’s happening in Argentina — in a country without reliable statistics, not just economic, but no reliable statistics regarding crime, traffic accidents, employment, education, and, especially, poverty, one cannot prove or disprove anything… which, I fear, in the end may be the basic and perverse idea. Information has become a machiavellian tool molded to the needs of each particular governmental “task” or to the “storyline” of the day. You chided another commentator for not being able to prove that crime has increased in Argentina — I would challenge you to PROVE that it has NOT increased, especially in the absence of centralized, reliable nationwide crime statistics. This IS AN IMPORTANT POINT — without real statistics, there is no reliable measure, especially on a nationwide level, of poverty and education in Argentina. If eradicating poverty and raising the most vulnerable classes out of destitution should be among the primary aims of all governments, possibly ahead of infrastructure and public safety, and if the core idea of Harvard alum Dr. Farmer’s work is true — that access to healthcare should be an unalienable human right worldwide — then after nearly 8 years of very strong commodities-fueled growth, kirchnerlandia IS failing — I cannot prove it to you with numbers, as they don’t exists. BUT, I CAN take you to my local public hospital which doesn’t have enough light bulbs to light ALL the hallways and uses xray equipment that is more than 50 years old, or take you to visit a local public kindergarden with no heating system, or show you malnurnished babies on a La Rioja bus, or take you to a town in Formosa where many of the children do not own a single pair of shoes, or introduce you to 5 people in MY neighborhood who are illiterate, or show you exactly where I, my mother-in-law, and my sister where each separately robbed, or show you my septic tank and water well (as my neighborhood has no sewage system or water supply system — I live in a “middle class” suburban neighborhood less than 50 km from La Presidente’s estate in Olivos), or introduce you to my husband’s “compadre” who for the last seven years has lived off a municipal salary he receives for “rounding up” voters for a Ms. Kirchner’s Party (I don’t use the “Dr.” title you insist on because Cristina Elisabet Fernandez de Kirchner has no proof she ever graduated as a lawyer in la Univ de La Plata — the university’s only document regarding her degree has been falsified and Mrs. Kirchner is not and has never been registered as a lawyer in any “colegio de abogado” in the Argentine Republic, not even in the Tribunal Superior de Justicia de Rio Gallegos)…OR maybe I can take you on a ride on la Ruta provincial 6 de Buenos Aires to show you pavement eroded away to nothing (LITERALLY nothing) due to lack of maintenance, or take you to several clandestine garbage dumps in areas where municipalities don’t collect trash, or show you a comparison of google earth satellite photos of la Villa 31, la Villa inflamable, la villa miseria de la Autopista La Plata, or los asentamientos de Comodoro Rivadavia between 2003 and 2012. Maybe then we can start having an HONEST discussion regarding the success of the kirchnerista model of “social inclusion”… unfortunately, an academic discussion, using numbers and facts, will have to wait until there is a government willing to amass real statistics and face reality in the eye. For now, all i can tell the readers, and you, Mr. John Smith, is that living under a government that tells you that all your daily problems are ALL in your head, that all you need to do is watch some state-funded futbol and leave the rest to them, is not only demeaning but EXHAUSTING.
HER DOUGTHER LIVES AND STUDIES IN NEW YORK!!WHAT IS SHE TALKING ABOUT!!??
SHE ONLY TALKS ABOUT THE 56% THAT WAS FRAUD BUT THERE STILL A 46% THAT DOESN’T WANT HER AT ALL!!
WE WANT TO BE FREE!!!!
we call her the black widow!!!
HI EVERYBODY!!!I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS LADY DOESN’T REPRESENT US AT ALL.THIS IS THE WORST GOVERMENT WE EVER HAD WORST THAN CHARLIE MENEM.SHE MAKES NON SENSE AND LIES EVERY WORD SHE SAID!!THIS COUNTRY IS TURNNING LIKE THE VENEZUELA OF CHAVEZ AND BECAME RICHER AND RICHER BUYING GOVERMENT LAND AT THE PATAGONIA FOR U$5 THE SQUARE FEET NOW IS WORTH U$2500 THE SQ FEET.SHE WANTS TO BE EQUAL TO THE POOR???DON´T MAKE ME LAUGH!!!IS BETT ER IF YOU DON´T WORK HERE AND HAVE A LOT OF KIDS AND HERE WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE JUST FOR ONE VOTE AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE BOLIVIANS,PERUVIANS,FROM PARAGUAY AND OTHER COUNTRYS THAT ONLY BY STILLING ONCE THEY GET THERE RESIDENCE RITE AWAY!!!YES AS YOU REED,BECAUSE IN THIS COUNTRY YOU CAN BE AROUND WITHOUT ID SO YOU COMMIT CRIME YOU GET IT!!!THIS THE WORST FOR OUR KIDS!!IMIGRANTS GO TO PUBLICUNIVERSITY AND I THAT PAY MY TAXES HAVE TO SEND MY KID TO A PRIVATE!!!THIS IS NOT FARE!!!
HD • 3 hours ago
We may have differences in state policies but it is not acceptable that the politicians steal public money and this is the central issue.
sole • 4 hours ago
Sorry, sorry to all the members of hadvard, I feel very ashamed by compottamiento the president, we are accustomed to mockery, but now they make fun of students, we must honor them, I have no words, most people are ashamed, blatantly lied
It is funny that the kirchneristas think that press conferences are “dangerous”, as that bootlicker Barone said in 678.
Press conferences only could be dangerous for journalists and not for presidents or officers with a govt like this.
It is funnier that the same Barone was the CEO of the ultra menemista newspaper Extra.
Yes, those “journalists” of 678 are just a bunch of mercenaries
Irina • 5 hours ago
Clearly,that John Smith (Juan Perez, nobody) is one of the payedbloggers from the K force. Don’t loose your time trying to argue with him, he only tells the story that has to be told (beliieve me they are master storytellers!). Instead of showing someof the really good things this gov has done, he forces himself to deny a reality that can’t be shown because by itself probes that the path is wrong right now and they are even far away from the model Nestor himself started. Cristina is leading us proudly to the past. Hopefully HE will demand ifor it.
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In argentina, polticians believe goverment and the state belong to them, you can experiment this when you hear them saying “I paid” or my laws or I did. There is a misconception of the republic and the publicity of goverment actions. Democracy basics should be learnt before the even take part in elections. I live in a province that one election had 40000 candidates (1.2M pop.). If the law (specially electoral) faces a barrier, they just change for a new version that let them take part and reelect indefinitely. Read about it.
Nico • 7 hours ago
John Smith You’ve lived 7 years in Argentina and think you know more about what’s going on than any other argentinian that has lived here their whole lives? Security-wise, I’m glad you thought Argentina was safe when you lived here. Things have changed. People get mugged, raped and murdered at high rates. Kids as young as 12 are high on drugs as well, mainly on “paco” and “poxirán” which are really ease to get. Because burglars are often high, murdering someone over a cellphone does happen. And this happens everywhere. In the upper, middle and lower class neighborhoods, in the city and in the countryside. Again, please read local newspapers before you post unreliable comments.
I think most of the questions done at Harvard were great! Of course, if they had had more time, they could’ve asked questions concerning social ware-fair, etc.
Now, don’t you think it’s ridiculous, having a President, a woman who represents a whole Country, answering questions abroad but not in her own country? Can you picture any other government doing the same?
The tone and the questions made by the Harvard students represent our frustration of being unable to communicate with our President in our own country. A frustration that escalates when she refuses to answer the question. Go back to any of the questions made to her, the answers she gives are way out of track. Content-wise, she did not answer a single question.
Laura • 13 hours ago
En Argentina el nivel de los estudiantes es altísimo y la educación, es pública y gratuita. Lamento que no entiendan que los grupos económicos están incorporando sus debates a la academia para intentar jerarquizar posiciones. Igualmente a nivel científico, desde los estudios en Ciencias Políticas, lo preguntado a la Jefa de Estado fue una burla, cualquier lector de periódicos podría haber dicho lo mismo. Imagínense si en una conferencia le preguntáramos a un médico en base a los artículos de un diario, así el conocimiento perdería todo valor, espero que no sea a eso a donde apunta su casa de “altos” estudios.
Los estudiantes hicieron las preguntas que cualquier ciudadano le querría hacer a Kirchner. Las preguntas fueron simples y ninguna fue contestada en forma directa.
Lo peor fue hacer referencia a la procedencia (social, geográfica, etc,) de los alumnos para disminuir el valor de las preguntas.
Y lo mejor fue que un grupo de casi adolescentes mostró las inseguridades de Kirchner cuando no está rodeada de La Campora, enojándose y poniéndose más arrogante que de costumbre.
Putting aside the quality of the questions, this group of almost teenagers demonstrated that Kirchner is not accustomed to dialogue or answer questions.
Without the shield provided by La Campora in local acts, applauding every single word this woman says, she looked angrier and more arrogant than usual.
The act was totally backfire.
I would bet that Timmerman or Abal Medina will pay for that.
If any serious Harvard student would like to research how the Latin American rich attempt to control Latin American wealth through ownership of the press and military coups, they need look not much further than the work of Harvard alumnus Paul Farmer MD, PhD. He has written extensively on Haiti, and to a lesser extent on Peru, but in his articles and books he consistently draws ties to the rest of the continent. You should know that the average Argentinian is not concerned about getting US dollars or that Kirchner responds to questions posed by a media group in flagrant disregard of anti-trust laws thanks to friendly ties with the former military dictatorship. There are real criticisms that ought to be levied against Kirchner, but they involve her not doing enough for the poor– not her being “press unfriendly”. I would also encourage anyone to visit the websites of the two largest newspapers (Clarin, La Nacion, both opposition) and search for “villa”, which is Argentine slang for “slum”. If you speak Spanish, you will see that the number one comment voted up is frequently something to the effect of: “we should just wipe those vermin out with grenades and flame-throwers”. Class warfare is a real problem in Argentina, though you can be sure Enron and Monsanto get sweetheart deals no matter who is at the helm. Most of the comments I’ve seen for this article so far represent the “flame-thrower”, “I want my dollars” crowd, not the “that money should go to Argentine kids, not Monsanto” crowd.
Sós de la kampora, “John Smith”?…..o sea, “Juan Pérez” para nuestras latitudes. Andáááááá mentiroso
Paul Farmer’s doctrinaire pro-Aristide leftist liberation theology, ill-advised as it certainly proved to be for Haiti and the economic and personal security interests of her citizens, the fact remains leftist would-be wealth-redistributors are doing a vile injustice to a number of once-proud Latin-American economies. Evo Morales, Kirchner, Hugo Chavez… there must be an accounting for the devastation and the toll on human dignity these dangerously misguided criminals have wrought.
Aristide, Morales, Kirchner and Chavez were all popularly elected in democracies, and none ever came close to “redistributing wealth” (in the sense of providing aid to the poor) like their military dictatorship predecessors did (in the sense of creating more poverty at the bottom for the sake of the rich). All were immediately re-elected, with the exception of Aristide, who with a 92% positive image in Haiti (making him the most popular head of state in the world) was overthrown by military men using US military supplies. You only need to look to Bolivia, Argentina and Venezuela respectively to see who is complaining about the “devastation and toll on human dignity” to get a clearer image of reality. In Latin America some people march for a fair price on consumer corn so they don’t starve, others take to the streets in their fur coats and complain about restrictions on US dollars. As I said, anyone who wants *an academic* analysis of how these things work should read Paul Farmer MD, PhD, Harvard alumnus. “Pathologies of Power” is a wonderful place to start.
Chavez encabezó un golpe de estado militar contra el Presidente Venezolano democrático en 1992 y como fracasó fue preso. Después lo indultó el Presidente Caldera, monigote! Como dijo el Rey de España: ¡Porque no te callas!!
“All were immediately re-elected, with the exception of Aristide, who with a 92% positive image in Haiti (making him the most popular head of state in the world) was overthrown by military men using US military supplies.” Actually, the weasel-faced little would-be Pol Pot “Pwesiden” Aristide managed to get himself thrown out of Haiti TWICE, both times by patriotic Haitians armed, thank heavens, with U.S. Military supplies. I wouldn’t use a Paul Farmer-authored missive to paper the bottom of a birdcage, thanks just the same.
John Smith, whether you’re currently in the US o en Argentina, tiene una vision totalmente “passé” de la actualidad de Argentina — additionally, your postings are incoherent. There is no way to academically analyze what’s happening in Argentina — in a country without reliable statistics, not just economic, but no reliable statistics regarding crime, traffic accidents, employment, education, and, especially, poverty, one cannot prove or disprove anything… which, I fear, in the end may be the basic and perverse idea. Information has become a machiavellian tool molded to the needs of each particular governmental “task” or to the “storyline” of the day. You chided another commentator for not being able to prove that crime has increased in Argentina — I would challenge you to PROVE that it has NOT increased, especially in the absence of centralized, reliable nationwide crime statistics. This IS AN IMPORTANT POINT — without real statistics, there is no reliable measure, especially on a nationwide level, of poverty and education in Argentina. If eradicating poverty and raising the most vulnerable classes out of destitution should be among the primary aims of all governments, possibly ahead of infrastructure and public safety, and if the core idea of Harvard alum Dr. Farmer’s work is true — that access to healthcare should be an unalienable human right worldwide — then after nearly 8 years of very strong commodities-fueled growth, kirchnerlandia IS failing — I cannot prove it to you with numbers, as they don’t exists. BUT, I CAN take you to my local public hospital which doesn’t have enough light bulbs to light ALL the hallways and uses xray equipment that is more than 50 years old, or take you to visit a local public kindergarden with no heating system, or show you malnurnished babies on a La Rioja bus, or take you to a town in Formosa where many of the children do not own a single pair of shoes, or introduce you to 5 people in MY neighborhood who are illiterate, or show you exactly where I, my mother-in-law, and my sister where each separately robbed, or show you my septic tank and water well (as my neighborhood has no sewage system or water supply system — I live in a “middle class” suburban neighborhood less than 50 km from La Presidente’s estate in Olivos), or introduce you to my husband’s “compadre” who for the last seven years has lived off a municipal salary he receives for “rounding up” voters for a Ms. Kirchner’s Party (I don’t use the “Dr.” title you insist on because Cristina Elisabet Fernandez de Kirchner has no proof she ever graduated as a lawyer in la Univ de La Plata — the university’s only document regarding her degree has been falsified and Mrs. Kirchner is not and has never been registered as a lawyer in any “colegio de abogado” in the Argentine Republic, not even in the Tribunal Superior de Justicia de Rio Gallegos)…OR maybe I can take you on a ride on la Ruta provincial 6 de Buenos Aires to show you pavement eroded away to nothing (LITERALLY nothing) due to lack of maintenance, or take you to several clandestine garbage dumps in areas where municipalities don’t collect trash, or show you a comparison of google earth satellite photos of la Villa 31, la Villa inflamable, la villa miseria de la Autopista La Plata, or los asentamientos de Comodoro Rivadavia between 2003 and 2012. Maybe then we can start having an HONEST discussion regarding the success of the kirchnerista model of “social inclusion”… unfortunately, an academic discussion, using numbers and facts, will have to wait until there is a government willing to amass real statistics and face reality in the eye. For now, all i can tell the readers, and you, Mr. John Smith, is that living under a government that tells you that all your daily problems are ALL in your head, that all you need to do is watch some state-funded futbol and leave the rest to them, is not only demeaning but EXHAUSTING.
Jhon Campora • 16 hours ago
Porque no te pones mi nombre; pelotudo, If you like to speak english go to your sister ass.
AM • a day ago
Error in the article:
Nestor Kirchner decided to let her wife run, but he could have run for a second term. Cristina is on her second term and she is barred from another one, unless they manage to reform the constitution.
“I feel highly privileged to be one of the few who can actually Argentines ask you a question,” Juan I. Maqueira: chief education adviser of Buenos Aires (opposition national government) responsible for the expulsion of several teachers for opposing the policies of Macri (governor of Buenos Aires, opponent). Harvard is an international embarrassment now and forever. Of those things not re
Harvard has been stained and dirty for all Argentines. An official of the opocision politics in Argentina, questioning the president posing as casual student. Please! Harvard has no level
Cristina deberia invadir paises limitrofes como hace EEUU, masacrarlos y robarles sus recursos naturales como hace ,otra vez , EEUU alrededor del mundo .
Asi la Economia funcionaria perfectamente , no? parece que hay muchos argentinos que les fascinaria esa idea .
Cristina deberia invadir paises limitrofes como hace EEUU, masacrarlos y robarles sus recursos naturales como hace ,otra vez , EEUU alrededor del mundo .
Asi la Economia funcionaria perfectamente , no? parece que hay muchos argentinos que les fascinaria esa idea .
I AM FROM ARGENTINA, in This Country there is no repression in Public Demonstrations, no “Guantanamo”. No Argentine troops in Middle Eastern soil. Harvard was a disappointment where A REPRESENTATIVE OF POLICY OPSICION Posed as students and others who had background interests. Harvard is not the height of Cristina Fernandez. remember the last student asked to Cristina, using a lie as a question. HE wanted LIE IN THE FACE OF CRISTINA, And of all Argentines!
In any free country (as USA or my country Argentina) everybody can ask questions, not just officalist (as a 678 journalist) but also people does think otherwise. We are a republic, so anyone can ask a question. The matter if the answer will be clear and transparent.
firstname.lastname@example.org • 19 hours ago
en este país, todos están preocupados porque no se puede comprar dólares, todos están preocupados por la inseguridad, todos están preocupados porque no pueden salir del país. Cristina Kirchner, hoy es la presidenta, mañana no lo será. Entiendo que hay muchas personas que no la quieren, que la odian, que cuando la ven en tv cambian el canal, o bajan el volumen para no escucharla. Me parece bien. Pero si REALMENTE no la toleras, no escuches nada. Porque al otro día, leen y escuchan todo lo que dijo, en los titulares de los diaros y canales que precisamente, cambian y distorcionan toda la informacion, y que cuando se equivocan, no desmienten lo que han publicado. Entonces, si vas a opinar, mira y escucha el discurso, y al otro día lee los diarios. Ahí podés sacar conclusiones, sino, es simplementre repetir una cadena de mentiras. Y a quien le preocupe demasiado no poder comprar dolares, entonces que vaya a vivir a otro lado, porque acá, para vivir no los necesitas. Y si queres salir del pais, comprá tu pasaje, comprá divisas y vas a poder salir (obvio, demostrando de donde sacaste el dinero), ahora, si eso te molesta, es tu problema, quien nada debe nada teme. Y si la inseguridad te atemoriza, te comento que es la misma que había hace años atrás…..Pero al menos vas al cine tranquilo a ver el estreno de batman, porque nadie te va a disparar. Y si te dedicas al campo, DEFINITIVAMENTE sos una persona feliz, ganas millones al año. Y si sos vendedor de autos, no podes negar que las ventas y el crecimiento del parque automotor ha sido record en los ultimos 6 años… Ahora, si te joden los pobres, y te molestan los viejos, lamento decirte que no los podemos esconder bajo tierra, ni matarlos….Alguien tiene que ayudarlos, y el unico que lo hace es el gobierno. No te veo llevandote un chico de la calle a tu casa. Así que, si sos tan infeliz acá, probá suerte en otro lado. No debe ser tan difícil. SI este es el pais de las maravillas, acá protestan en las calles con tapados de piel, y los pobres los miran por TV.
email@example.com • 19 hours ago
honestamente, las preguntas fueron muy infantiles, y casi parecian ser dictadas por Clarin, el monopolio de los medios de comunicacion que hay en mi pais, y en el cual vivo actualmente. No sé si ustedes saben, pero algunos de los motivos por los cuales el 54% de los ciudadanos la voto, es que entre otras cosas, se logro la reactivacion de la industria nacional, se redujo de un 20% a un 6% la desocupacion, se mando a la carcel a militares que mataron y torturaron a mas de 30000 argentinos, se logro por primera vez un crecimiento economico sostenido desde 2003 hasta la fecha de hoy, se realizo asistencia para ancianos y tambien para las personas mas pobres, etc.etc. Y no se dejen engañar, cuando un pais esta en crisis, el primer sector social que sale a las calles a protestar es es sector más castigado, los pobres. Aqui, actualmente, los que salen a las calles, son curiosamente, los más adinerados, entonces, se llega a la conclusion, de que quien más tiene es el que actualmente esta disconforme, y que lograr inclusion e igualdad social enfurece principalmente aquellos sectores que mas poder economico tienen. Gracias.
Púhhhh largá el paco, nena…. fijate que hace daño, ¡eh! Viste, así le fue a ella, anoche!!!
Los más adinerados son los funcionarios, entre ellos Cristina.
La reactivación de la industria parece prehistórica, sobre todo si se ve la caída de la actividad en la construcción que es la industria que ofrece más trabajo a los sectores más bajos.
Si alguien alguna vez tiene la oportunidad de conocer las diferentes provincias se va a dar cuenta lo que es la falta de inclusión y la desigualdad. Lo mismo si camina por el microcentro.
Y si alguien va a Puerto Madero se va a dar cuenta como un político berreta puede incrementar su patrimonio varias veces desde que asumió su primer cargo
Coincido que el 2003 pusieron el país a punto, estabamos realmente en crisis y mejoraron muchisimas cosas en ese momento, Néstor fue un muy buen presidente, a pesar de que no lo voté. Ahora…Cristina? Se mandó mala atrás de otra. Y no, estás muy equivocada, hay muchos ejemplos en la historia que demuestran que cuando hay una crisis social no necesariamente son los pobres los que salen a las calles, todo lo contrario, son los sectores medios…acompañados o no por los sectores más bajos.
Osvaldo Kreimer • a day ago
As a lawyer, sociologist and Stanford Ph.d. who has lived for 40 years in the US and has now decided to come back to his native country and has no formal or political connection with the present Administration in Argentina, I can tell your that President Kirchner has answered with enormous frankness and veracity to all questions. The questions themselves in their majority were pathetically simplistic and parroted most unfounded and malignous accusations from the media conglomerate that dominates Argentine broadcasting and news services. I can assert with evidence that is available to anyone seriously interested that in Argentina, freedom of expression, of trade, and exchange of ideas is paramount and comparable if not better than the U.S. ones. Moreover, social programs and economic growth as well as improvement of the inequality has been going on for the last eight years. UNDP Report on Human Development ranks Argentine system of education which is free, as the second best in Latin America. The hate and intelectual dishonesty shown by most of the comments below are typical of those who are accustomed to rule selfishly their country, both economically and ideologically, and see a succesful governmet challenge their interest and worldview.
How much do you get paid by the Kirchner’s regime to make such dishonest statement?
supongo que el mismo que tenes vos, no declarado y que obviamente no te gusta que te toquen. Decir la verdad es estar comprado….criticar por criticar, sin un poquito de razocinio, es lo que esta bien!!…por favor!!!
You can be proud of your degrees, but not of this person as President of my country. She knows how not to answer questions and create a false story about the actual situation in my country. Every day we feel that she is trying to cheat us trying to make the people that honestly work pay for the ‘gifts’ she likes giving to the people that vote her. The level of corrupcy is extremely high. We don’t feel safe in our own country.
Don’t despair, xabeira this too will pass. As they sew, so shall they reap.
meanwhile we have to get used to her cinic style and the lack of tolerance gets worse and worse. Imagine if she talked as she did in the USA, how she acts here where she feels the ever lasting queen
Clearly you do not live in Argentina. All the comments here are true. You can´t buy foreign currencies, you can´t travel abroad, inflation rate is 25% while the INDEC indicates less than 10%, the level of corruption is one of the highest ever, involving the president, vice president, ministers and judges (for instance Ciccone, Boudou, Oyarbide, Schoklender, etc, etc, etc.)
If you want to know about insecurity, just take a walk around downtown at midnight.
Exactly Pablo, only if you live here can you really comment on our situation.
Is enough to take a walk during the day…
I do live in Argentina for the last three years. What your answers show is the lack of tolerance and spirit of dialogue that taints many but not all of the opposition.
The opposition is as poor of ideas as the govt.
I do not belong to the “opposition” just in case.
If you want to see the real lack of tolerance and lack of dialogue, just watch 678 in channel 7.
I agree with you
Todos pueden salir del pais cuando quieran, simplemente deben DEMOSTRAR de donde sacaron el dinero (divisas)que pretenden comprar para poder viajar. El que nada debe nada teme dicen……
Por más que tengas todos tus impuestos en orden, la cuestión es que no te venden los dólares o la moneda que necesites. A lo sumo podés acceder a lo que la AFIP se le ocurre (pueden ser 20 ó 30 USD diarios).
Me pregunto si los funcionarios dan el ejemplo llevando 30 USD por día en sus viajes o si tienen todas sus cuentas en orden y la respuesta es: no
You sir, are an idiot.
everyone who begins a post saying I have no connections with kirchnerismo, I’m neutral, I didn’t vote kirchnerismo is a kirchnerista. Only 50% of the kids finish the high school don’t lie animore
Victoria and Disneyguol said right…. enough