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Re- Published from Chicago, by Dr. Gaston Saint Martin (gsaintmartin@hotmail.com )   –  When I was a teenager (Uhu, yes… too many y/a!) I tried to show to my Mathematical professor a large and complex equation that proves “4=5”. My professor answered was: “I do not waste my time with “sophisms” … and that was all! He didn’t taught me where was the mathematical inacceptable mistake; I learn that from my father, an excellent Civil Engineer!  –  Sarah Palin seems to have the some virtue, she pretend to prove as true facts everybody knows are wrong) using apparently true facts (Sophism) 

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HEALTH CARE – SARAH PALIN  DEATH PANEL- 1 

Statement on the Current Health Care Debate

by Sarah Palin on Friday, August 7, 2009 at 1:26pm ·

As more Americans delve into the disturbing details of the nationalized health care plan that the current administration is rushing through Congress, our collective jaw is dropping, and we’re saying not just no, but hell no!
The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.
Health care by definition involves life and death decisions. Human rights and human dignity must be at the center of any health care discussion.
Rep. Michele Bachmann highlighted the Orwellian thinking of the president’s health care advisor, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of the White House chief of staff, in a floor speech to the House of Representatives. I commend her for being a voice for the most precious members of our society, our children and our seniors.
We must step up and engage in this most crucial debate. Nationalizing our health care system is a point of no return for government interference in the lives of its citizens. If we go down this path, there will be no turning back. Ronald Reagan once wrote, “Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we’ll ever see on this earth.” Let’s stop and think and make our voices heard before it’s too late.
– Sarah Palin

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Dan Mich I don’t know who is crazier or the bigger liar…you or Bachman. You are both an embarrassment to women’s progress and Christianity

January 10, 2010 at 7:11pm · 6

Nogui Aramburo What a schmaverick

January 17, 2010 at 2:21pm

Lindsay Miller you’re a fucking idiot….

January 21, 2010 at 10:24am · 1

Jim Riley There is not any death panle just BS about about this. check validation of a story first.

January 21, 2010 at 5:08pm

Tommy Smith wow sarah palin is a dipweed dumb@$$

January 21, 2010 at 8:53pm · 1

Michael Stevens hope you rot in hell palin lover

January 24, 2010 at 8:08pm · 1

Gabrielle Alexandra

if you don’t like palin, why are you on here hatching your eggs of negativity? just don’t comment..your time is wasted. in addition, she has a point about the health care bill which obama promised when he was running that he’d put online fo…r public access. excuse me if i too am upset that i haven’t seen much of that 4,000 *yes* page bill. i may not agree with everything palin says or everything obama says but it’s about being informed. don’t blindly support health care without obtaining the facts. See More

January 26, 2010 at 8:41pm · 2

Tina Leisner McDermott Palin is not qualified in any way to be a public figure due to her constant misperceptions of reality and ignorance. Her quote above is concrete proof.

January 30, 2010 at 10:44am · 2

Jennifer Flinchum I wonder if anyone here works in healthcare. If they did, they might know how ignorant they are. “Death panel”may seem to be a fantasy, but Rationing is a real government reality.

January 31, 2010 at 7:42am

Catherine Lee Tina Leisner McDermott is not qualified in any way to be a voter. Her ignorance of what’s at stake in Obamacare prove that she is just another sheep bleating nonsense.

January 31, 2010 at 6:30pm · 1

Catherine Lee Jennifer, I’m studying to go into healthcare, and NONE of my teachers (retired doctors and nurses) want Obamacare. They say that a government bureaucrat will decide who gets care and who won’t, and that is rationing and putting your health care decisions in the hands of a DEATH PANEL.

January 31, 2010 at 6:33pm · 1

Susan G Hundley It’s bad enough that insurance companies make decisions on what procedures and when. There needs to be reform but I shudder when I think about Obamacare and it’s ramifications.

February 1, 2010 at 7:07am

Daniel Larrosa i find it quite sickening not only that you would use your own child’s down syndrome to score political points, but that you feel you can lie through your teeth and tell people that Obama is planning to have ‘death panels’ in any way shape or form.

Shame on you.

February 7, 2010 at 11:54am · 3

Richard Hall

I am afraid the more I hear from Republicans, the more I think they are just downright stupid. There must be Republicans who aren’t intellectually bereft, so why do they keep fielding the morons???
All I can say is that Mrs Palin is showi…ng her true colours. Me, me,me,me,me. She has nothing to worry about as the system stands as she can afford to pay as much as any healthcare plan costs. Shame about everyone in the US who cannot.
This woman is not only stupid (as she has proven in several different arenas), she is a selfish, nasty piece of work. I’m thinking that might be the criteria Republicans use in recruitment.See More

February 8, 2010 at 10:29am · 1

Rose Adams I’m British and nationalised healthcare has saved my life. I think you should go back to Pre-School or maybe read your beloved country’s constitution that says you are all created equal and not only worthy of how much healthcare you can pay for.
Thank you, you elitist snob, now go join the real world yeah?

February 8, 2010 at 12:51pm · 2

Michael Johnson

Rose, you best learn to read better. The phrase “created equal” is not in the US Constitution. It’s in the Declaration of Independence. But, more importantly both documents defend our liberty and oppose tyranny. That means they oppose y…ou taking my money to pay for things you want. If only we would follow them more faithfully.
BTW, a “health system” didn’t save you. It was doctors, nurses, medicine, medical procedures etc. And you have no “right” to their services or products as long as they and the people who pay for them are free. You only have a “right” to them if they and the payors are enslaved.
Too bad you don’t understand that, you fascist.See More

February 9, 2010 at 2:22pm · 1

Stefan Johansen

That is just far out. That people actually believe in these things. You americans have the most expensive healtcare system in the world, and yet so many people is let down. That is a sign which says the money is distributed in the wrong way…. To the private health insurance companys pockets to be specific. What kind of “evil” is that Palin? You should be a shamed of yourself, by contributing to the, already stupid part of Americans, and their prejudgment of the welfare-state. Look atdenmarkfor once, and shut up!See More

February 11, 2010 at 8:27am

Rose Adams I’m a fascist for believing in socalised medicine.
Oh the irony…
And actually Michael, the NHS DID save my life (not that I’m faulting those nurses and doctors) because without the NHS my parents would not have been able to afford the healthcare I needed when I was born 2 months prematurely.
Think how many children in the USA who have suffered because of the short sightedness of the Republicans.

February 13, 2010 at 3:36pm · 1

DotBellSharp

Obviously, the people who are all for the “great” government-run health care Obama is trying to ram down our throats have not had the experiences with government health care that I have. I am old enough to remember well when we used to hav…e quality health care. My first hip replacement was practically painless, with 5 days of quality hospital care. During my second hip replacement I was ignored by the hospital staff and when I complained I was told to complain to my congressman, not to the hospital. I just had a hip replacement revision and woke up screaming in pain from lack of enough anesthesia. I stopped breathing and was put back into ICU to be revived. I was still sent home the second day from surgery, barely alive for my poor husband to do the hospital care. Can any of you imagine how much worse the quality of our healthcare will be if the government gets control of all health care!! See More

February 23, 2010 at 10:52am

Bryant Herndon

Keep it up Governor! Reading these comments, I am simply amazed at the hatred of people that do not agree. Thank you for standing against the first U.S. Congress and President in our history actively trying to destroy, or as they say, “ref…orm” our great country. Is it not amazing that when you speak the truth in love, it throws the faithless into a tailspin. Leaving them nothing to do, but to lash out it anger. You know as well as I do, you are in good company. The light shines in the darkness and the dark does not comprehend. As for you commenting, who are so full of hatred, I pray that the kindness of God would be poured into your life, for it is the kindness of God that leads us to repentance. Be blessed.
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March 19, 2010 at 10:26am · 1

Semper Reformanda LOVE YA KID, PRAYING FOR YA…
KEEP THE INSPIRATION, YOU’RE DOING GREAT…JESUS WITH YOU…
IN MY PRAYERS!…YOU’VE GOT COURAGE THAT IS AMAZING! HUGS!!! XOXO…

April 12, 2010 at 7:21pm

Donna Lasater Health Insurance co. average 4% in profits:http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2010/02/health-insurance-companies-rank-88-by.html
Healthcare is going to be a whole lot more expensive once it is free…

December 26, 2010 at 8:41am · 1

Mark Rickard And, after the smoke clears, it turns out that Sarah Palin was partially CORRECT, even more obfuscated because it couldn’t legislated so it will be bureaucratized.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/26/us/politics/26death.html
God, we’re tired of being right about this man-child.

January 3, 2011 at 1:01pm

Robert York ‎@Zev Levi Rogan You cant view Russia from your house, its geologicaly imposible to see it because of the Earth’s curvature.”
It’s sad that people get their news from Saturday Night Live and believe it. And Zev, please learn how to spell “geologically” and “impossible.”

January 3, 2011 at 5:05pm · 2

Al Pinkerton Obamas destructive agenda of theUnited States is perspicaciously evident within the rules and regulations of this BAD bill.

January 6, 2011 at 6:14pm · 3

Al Pinkerton Absolutely true, just read it !

January 6, 2011 at 6:18pm · 3

Alfonso Ortiz i guess she was right after all these years

February 21 at 8:36pm

Philip Reed Wow, this is so awesome! Who knew that our national jester’s incoherent rantings about “death panels” would still be accessible years later?
Funnier than Sarah Palin, though, are the legions of fans apparently believing that their goddess cared about something besides selling books and securing a Fox News gig. You really thought she intended to govern something? Suckers!

February 27 at 2:41pm · 1

MArch 5 at 11:13pm

Juan Carlos Capilla I wanna see you wrestle a grizzly bear all oiled up in a bikini and I am hoping that the bear will win (leave the rifle home, OK? just in case you see the Russians coming over to invade us

April 2 at 11:10am

John Klem

Overwhelmed by hatred and stupidity. Life would be so simple if everyone just lived life with respect for each other. Every law should expire six years after it is enacted, followed by a one year waiting period before it can be re-enacted…. Try it on and see if it fits. I distrust the Obamacare law. None of the dems will admitt that they have read it, so they somehow think they can shirk any responsibility for enacting it AND the Repubs will not admitt they have read the whole thing, so they condem it by bits and pieces. The only people who claim tjhey have read it are radically right and I don’t trust them one iota. So lets have an automatic repeal in six years, get rid of the don’t likes and some missed its and pass it again. Ole’See More

April 25 at 5:17am

John LaCroix You are honestly the dumbest liar in recent history Sarah. Go away.

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Supreme Court puts stethoscope to “Obamacare”‏

By Dr. Gaston Saint Martin, published from Chicago, Il. (gsaintmartin@hotmail.com)

I agree with the ideas of PLF and Timothy Sandefur most the time, specially about his magnificent book “The right to Earn a Living” , but no this time.   May be our different points of view are because I am a physcician and Mr Sandefur is a lawer.   I am an Argentine MD trained in The US (late sixties).  To be trained I chose Louisvile University, Ky, because it was one of the oldest, smallest Municipal Universities in This Union. That area (south of Ohio river and north of Tenneessi river, was considered the poorest underdeveloped area of The US; as I was planing to go back to practice medicine to the Patagonia I hoped to find in Kentucky similar pathology and socioeconomic problems (sociology discipline, is not  socialist , or comunist idealism). As I was a legal inmigrant, I had the opportunity to remain here, to practice and make e living in The US, once I finished my training.  At that time were some reports that pronosticate the most brillant future (socialy, economic, and stability to Lawyer Juges and to MD well trained with speciality and aproved Boards. I didn’t care about money, I went back to the patagonia any way.  But don’t get me wrong, I am not saying “I do not like money” , I do love to charge a lot for a well done job, specially for a Job that only me can be do so well: BUT I do no like at all the reverse: “to do things in medicine because of money…  I name that “mercantilism or bourgeois medicine. I worker hard over there, trying to improve things and help to have there the good things we have here. I had failures and I had success.  No infrecuently, when I tried to change some thing for better, I was shouted: “Oh shut up… You “Yanqui Doctor” not preciselly in a positive way.  In 2002 (when Argentina went to the economic default, we couden’t tolerate such stupidity, and decided come back to The US. I was shocked!  The Medicine I sustained it was “The Best medical Care in the world… was not any longer so… it was too expensive and do not reach too many people…  it is a burgoise medicie I do not like and I know: “Some thig must be done to correct errors…”  I know President Clinton and his wife Hilary have tried to do some thing, but failed. Our “Medical / Hospital Corporation is too powerful!!!  Even Adam Smith whould disaprove what we are doing if Mr Smith could see it!.  I do know  “OBAMACARE” is far from perfect but is the beginning of a change “at least”…

I indented  to write about a word it is not well understood in The US. (capitalism Burgees) and why medical care can’t be included as a “commerce activity”  and  refute or at least show the other view of Sarah Palin “Death Commission”  and why health care exceeds our (Mds) responsibility , and against our (Mds.) “proprietary concept of the fast advancing  medical technology. –  Just below it is what OLF and Timothy Sandefur sent to me:

From:  PLF Sentry (plfalert@pacificlegal.org)
Sent: Wed 3/21/12 8:06 AM
To: gsaintmartin@hotmail.com

March 21, 2012

For three days next week, the U.S. Supreme Court will hear oral arguments over the Patient Protection and Affordable Health Care Act – the sweeping new federal health law widely known as “Obamacare.”


PLF’s e-book on Obamacare explains the legal issues as the Supreme Court hears this momentous case.

Pacific Legal Foundation, in concert with other profreedom organizations, has filed a brief with the Court, targeting the law’s central plank: The decree that most Americans who aren’t covered by employers must buy a government-dictated health-insurance plan.

“The individual mandate represents an unprecedented expansion of federal power,” explains PLF Principal Attorney Timothy Sandefur, who co-authored PLF’s brief. “The Constitution does not give Congress the power to force people to buy or sell things. If the mandate is upheld, the door will be open to all kinds of economic mandates, with D.C. bureaucrats dictating our most personal decisions.”

The stakes for the economy – and for liberty

Beyond the threat to constitutional limits on federal power, Obamcare’s policy effects also have millions of Americans worried – its coercive dictates to medical providers, insurance companies, and private employers; its heavy taxes and fees; and the prospect that bureaucratic meddling will compromise health care quality and deter the development of new drugs and therapies.


Timothy Sandefur explains Obamacare’s assault on constitutional principles – and individual liberty.

But if safeguards for federalism and freedom fall away, debates over mere policy issues will be almost beside the point. So PLF’s focus is where it must be: keeping the Constitution – and its framework of limited, decentralized government – healthy for this generation and those to come!

PLF: The most active challenger to the federal health care takeover

PLF is the nation’s most active organization in challenging the federal health care law. In addition to prosecuting our own lawsuit on behalf of Iowa small-business owner Matt Sissel, we have filed 10 amicus briefs in support of five high-profile suits, including Florida’s.

Read Tim’s latest blog posts on health care.

The quality and quantity of our work haven’t gone unnoticed. The Supreme Court Insider, published by The National Law Journal, recently named PLF Principal Attorney Timothy Sandefur its “Litigator of the Week,” in recognition of his briefing and legal scholarship opposing Obamacare.

www.pacificlegal.org/healthcare